1. La Amplia Definición de Violencia Política (PV).
Una parte significativa del debate se centra en expandir la definición de violencia política más allá de los ataques físicos directos contra figuras públicas, incluyendo el daño sistémico y estructural perpetrado por el Estado y las élites económicas.
- Poverty is political violence. For profit healthcare is political violence. Attacks on our human rights are political violence. Fighting back is self defense.
- To these western liberal and conservative bastards, its only political violence when someone or a group of oppressed peoples fight back. Its not political nor violent when the violence is done on behalf of the status quo.
- Political violence is like defunding schools and starving farmers and closing planned parenthoods. Indirect pain and suffering and death by the state.
- Violence is never judged only on the basis of lives lost or individuals harmed. It is judgedand narratedaccording to whether it sustains or threatens a particular social order. What counts as violence, and what counts as order, are always political determinations made by those in power.
2. El Monopolio Estatal y la Hipocresía de la Condena.
Se critica la doble moral de condenar la violencia ejercida por individuos o grupos oprimidos, mientras se normaliza y legitima la violencia institucionalizada del Estado, que posee el monopolio legal de la fuerza.
- The state demands a monopoly on violence. Its violence is natural, orderly, invisible, and the fault of whomever it is dealt to.
- Political violence by individuals? bad. Political violence by the state? good!
- Its not political violence if the state does it continues to be one of the most braindead centrist opinions.
- The state has a monopoly on violence. When they claim political violence has no place in america, they mean political violence against them.
- Political violence is mostly government violence against the people. Ice. Local police. Killing fisherman at sea. Drone bombing weddings.
3. Justificación y la Historia de la Violencia como Herramienta.
Existe una tensión constante sobre si la violencia política puede ser una respuesta legítima o incluso necesaria ante la opresión, la tiranía o la falta de vías democráticas efectivas, a menudo citando la fundación violenta de Estados Unidos.
- Sometimes political violence is the appropriate response to oppression that threatens ones life and liberty.
- See the reason i cant full chested say that i oppose political violence, is that political violence is about the only thing thats ever worked.
- Politically motivated violence is wrong this country was literally founded on by political violence.
- Once the ability to overcome tyranny by legal means is lost, people will turn to violence. This is one of the primary lessons of history.
- Political violence is sometimes justifiable. Dont give up your rights. Defend them. Protect your community and your loved ones. Protect the american constitution.
- When you categorically deem political violence as never being acceptable, you cede the monopoly on it to the worst of us.
4. El Riesgo de la Escalada y la Amenaza a la Democracia.
Muchos advierten que la violencia política, independientemente de su origen, es inherentemente destructiva para la sociedad y la democracia, ya que socava el diálogo y conduce a un ciclo de represalias y caos.
- Political violence ends conversation and invites war its rejection is paramount to a functioning democracy and a free society.
- Violence begets violence. Violence is not a solution but a catalyst for more violence, creating a downward spiral.
- Political violence is incompatible with democracy. The entire point of democratic governance is settling our differences through deliberation rather than force, through ballots rather than bullets, through argument rather than assassination.
- Political violence doesnt stay neatly contained and only impact the opposition. Itll come after the politicians you like and support. Anyone is collateral, including yourself and your loved ones.
- Political violence is a sign of a government that is no longer functional. Individuals no longer feel heard so they resort to violence. We are toast.