1. El Absoluto vs. la Excepción: ¿La Violencia Nunca es la Respuesta?
La frase "la violencia nunca es la respuesta" es un punto de partida común, pero es inmediatamente matizada o rechazada por quienes ven la necesidad de la fuerza en situaciones extremas, especialmente en defensa propia o contra la opresión sistémica.
- Violence is never the answer. Only use violence to protect yourself and others. It may come to that.
- I truly dont understand the violence is never the answer people. Like, yeah, lets avoid violence whenever possible, but a lot of the time its quite obviously the answer.
- Violence is never the answer. Well. Unless someone is trying to injure or kill youor to kill or injure others.
- Violence is never the answer! yall only say that in response to retaliation, not to the ones who practices it every day.
- Violence is never the answer people and this isnt how we are people are insufferably delusional. Like, dont believe my eyes? or history??
2. La Violencia como Herramienta Pragmática y Último Recurso.
Una corriente significativa argumenta que la violencia es una respuesta efectiva, aunque a menudo costosa, especialmente cuando los métodos pacíficos han fallado. Se enfatiza que la capacidad de ser violento es necesaria para que la paz sea una elección genuina, no una mera debilidad.
- As someone once said violence isnt the answer, but it is an answer and often a very effective one.
- Violence is absolutely a valid answer. Its not always the correct answer, but when it is, it tends to be the only one.
- History tells us that violence is almost always the answer unfortunately. Violence is never the answer is just propaganda to keep us from going after the ruling class.
- You cannot chose to be peaceful unless you are capable of enormous violence. If not, its not your choice. Youre not peaceful, youre just harmless. And that is not remotely the same thing.
- If violence didn't solve the problem, you're not using enough.
- Violence is the very mechanism of societal change and suffering of the enemies of that change a necessary and wholly unavoidable consequence.
3. La Superioridad Estratégica de la No Violencia.
En contraste, muchos defienden la no violencia como la táctica más inteligente y moralmente superior para lograr un cambio duradero. Esta postura sostiene que la violencia solo beneficia al opresor, quien está mejor equipado para manejarla, y que la resistencia pacífica es la única forma de deslegitimar el poder autoritario.
- Non violence works. The regime in power wants us to be violent because they know how to handle that. They want us violent because they can get all marshal law on us after and crush us further. Do not play into their hands.
- Non-violence is the smartest way to be, never mind that it is the moral way to be.
- Nonviolent resistance is the only viable way to combat evil injustice in the long run.
- When it gets down to having to use violence, then you are playing the systems game. The establishment will irritate you to make you fight. Because once theyve got you violent, then they know how to handle you. The only thing they dont know how to handle is non-violence and humor.
- In order for non-violence to work, your opponent must have a conscience. The united states has none. - stokely carmichael.
4. Distinciones Cruciales: Violencia Defensiva vs. Violencia Ofensiva.
Existe un esfuerzo por diferenciar la autodefensa y la resistencia de la violencia gratuita. Se argumenta que la violencia institucional y estructural ya está en curso, y que la respuesta de los oprimidos, incluso si es física, debe entenderse como defensa o resistencia, no como una agresión inicial.
- Violence is certainly the answer when you are defending yourself.
- Nonviolence is foolish. You are gonna nonviolence yourself into getting killed. You have to practice self defence, and sometimes that means physically restraining someone else. Which is violence.
- Non violence only works after you have overthrown the system that commits violence to stay in control.
- Nonviolence is not a suicide pact, and someone will eventually say fuck it and defend themselves.
- Violence is never the answer is only ever used in the defense of those who use violence against marginalized groups.
- Striking back at systems isnt violence, its resistancedefense. Defend one another.
5. La Inevitabilidad y el Costo de la Escalada.
Muchos participantes expresan temor ante la escalada de la situación, reconociendo que la violencia puede ser inevitable, pero advirtiendo sobre sus consecuencias destructivas, la pérdida del control y el riesgo de convertirse en aquello que se combate.
- Violence is that two-edged sword that may injure your enemies now, but can injure you when you lose control of it.
- So, youll never catch me saying violence is never the answer. But i will say if you choose violence youd better be ready for unbounded and terrible escalation.
- I understand anger and desire for destruction. But i oppose violence for both moral and strategic reasons.
- Violence is always a bad choice, john calvi told quakerspeak back in 2014. It not only makes a horrible mess at the time its happening, but it leaves an even bigger mess after its been done.
- The practice of violence, like all action, changes the world, but the most probable change is to a more violent world.