1. La Omnipresencia de la Propaganda Militar.
Una gran parte de los comentarios señalan la estrecha relación entre las producciones de Hollywood y el aparato militar estadounidense. Se discute cómo el financiamiento y la supervisión de guiones por parte del Departamento de Defensa (DOD) moldean las narrativas, promoviendo una visión favorable de las fuerzas armadas y normalizando su intervención en conflictos globales.
- Almost every american movie/show is either that or military propaganda. Literally the dod vets movie scripts is insane.
- Full creative control is a deal breaker when the entire franchise is funded by the us military to publish propaganda. This is not hyperbole.
- Hollywood's financial and political collaborations w/the dod has provided studios with a financial incentive to produce militaristic content. By offering access to equipment, personnel, and locations at low or no cost, the pentagon is given script approval and editorial control. That's propaganda.
- People think that propaganda is old time ussr posters plastered to walls instead of captain america working alongside the us army to stop the bad guys or the latest call of duty game.
2. Starship Troopers: El Doble Filo de la Sátira.
La película "Starship Troopers" es un ejemplo recurrente y complejo. Se la presenta como una obra maestra de la sátira que critica el fascismo y el militarismo al imitar un filme de propaganda dentro de su propio universo. Sin embargo, muchos señalan que una parte del público no capta la ironía, consumiéndola como una película de acción pro-militar, lo que demuestra lo fácil que es para la sátira ser malinterpretada como el objeto de su burla.
- The people who think this are the ones who also don't realize paul verhoeven's starship troopers film is a massive satire on authoritarian governments and how they do propaganda.
- Yes, the film is in-universe propaganda from a fascist govt. And. It's indistinguishable from a hollywood action movie. Verhoeven is throwing fire at the studios as much as at heinlein.
- Yeah humanity's over, propaganda works! you aren't immune! people are disturbingly susceptible to it and starship troopers is structured as pro-fascist propaganda! that's what you need to understand! if you aren't inculcated beforehand with the idea it's satire, it's just propaganda!
- Verhoeven is a genius because when he directed starship troopers he purposely made an artless film to best signal this is a propaganda movie produced by the society it depicts. That the twitter nazis constantly defending a literal viewing of the movie never grasped this proved him right.
3. El Universo Marvel: ¿Entretenimiento o Adoctrinamiento?
Las películas de Marvel son un foco central del debate. Con frecuencia se las califica como propaganda descarada del complejo militar-industrial de EE. UU. Se argumenta que estas producciones, a menudo en colaboración con el ejército, construyen una imagen heroica del intervencionismo estadounidense y sus ideales, empaquetada como entretenimiento de masas.
- Like marvel films. Are literally american military propaganda. A damn clear and very obvious one of fiction affects reality if u cannae see that. Um. Ur dumb sorry.
- It’s insane the amount of propaganda they were able to fit into a universe where some characters oppose the government and the military very regularly.
- This but also: the military industrial complex and marvel/superhero media. So much entertainment is just propaganda with better production values.
- Was certainly eye-opening to find out that marvel movies are all us military propaganda with military advisors on-set to ensure they don't portray the us military in an unflattering light.
4. La Percepción Generalizada: Cuando Todo es Propaganda.
Más allá de géneros específicos, prevalece la idea de que cualquier medio con influencia masiva puede ser, y a menudo es, una forma de propaganda. Los usuarios expresan un creciente cinismo hacia el entretenimiento, viéndolo como una herramienta para moldear la opinión pública, ya sea de forma intencionada o como un subproducto de la cultura que lo crea. Se insta a aplicar el pensamiento crítico a todo el contenido consumido.
- Anything can be considered propaganda and it’s because this film has a massive influence because of the culture surrounding it.
- I can't watch a three letter agency movie or a war movie anymore. Most of the shit we watch is propaganda. Lame.
- "it normalises actual abuse" yeah and marvel movies normalise the military-industrial complex. Everything is propaganda, apply critical thinking skills instead of expecting everything you see to be fucking didactic.
- Time to realize that hollywood is just basic propaganda, though a lot more entertaining than the average.