1. El Elogio a Andor y Rogue One como Star Wars "Adulto".
Gran parte del consenso positivo se centra en Andor y Rogue One, que son valoradas por su enfoque en la guerra, la política y los personajes comunes, alejándose de la mitología Jedi. Sin embargo, existe un debate sobre la calidad de Rogue One a la luz de la excelencia de Andor.
- Andor is also the best star wars thing out there its a star wars for people who were watching it as children, but have grown up into adults. And it is star wars with grown-up ideas and themes and commentary, for those adults.
- One thing rogue one did really well, which andor expanded on, is establish that the destruction of the death star was built on the collective work and sacrifice of tons of regular people before luke ever had a chance to nail a one in a million shot with space magic.
- I loved star wars as a kid, hated the new movies, loved rogue one and andor.
- I see the people trash talking rogue one and i can say is i get. Its been so long since yall saw a good star wars movie, they completely forgot what it looks like.
- We watched r1 immediately after finishing andor and the drop in quality is shocking. Some people say andor elevates r1, maybe it does a tiny bit, but its still bad. Its not a good movie.
- I really like that andor guy in andor, for me hes number one.
2. La Polarización de la Trilogía Secuela y The Last Jedi.
La Trilogía Secuela, y en particular The Last Jedi (TLJ), sigue siendo el punto más divisivo del fandom. Mientras que algunos la defienden como una película brillante y anti-fan service, otros la consideran un desastre que fue saboteado por decisiones posteriores, como el regreso de Palpatine en Rise of Skywalker.
- Star wars nerds raging against the last jedi was utterly confusing to me. One of those cultural moments where i realized that there was a sizable amount of people that i dont understand at all. The last jedi is a great movie regardless of its relation to star wars. Yet the nerds hated it.
- I love rogue one, but fully agreed about bringing solo and tlj up. People slept on tlj because its literally anti-fan service.
- I really respect nerdnonymous for actually calling attention how abrams screwed rian over, instead of just blaming only tlj for ruining the st like most people do.
- I think shoving palpatine back into the story was only maybe 13 make the whiners happy and at a minimum 23 im jj abrams, i dont understand this ip or science fiction in general, not one little bit, so ill copy shit thats already been done and bank on people being too dumb to notice.
- The last jedi is good because they edit people yelling at each other on the bridge well, thats all star wars is, its people on a bridge yelling at each other, thats what gets you a b.
- Rise of skywalker is the exception. Its an ugly movie, written for ugly reasons for ugly people and it _shows_.
3. Star Wars vs. Star Trek: Diferencias Fundamentales y Toxicidad del Fandom.
La eterna comparación entre Star Wars y Star Trek revela diferencias fundamentales en su enfoque: fantasía y rebelión contra ciencia ficción y utopía. El archivo también subraya la toxicidad general del discurso en línea, que ha arruinado la experiencia para muchos fans.
- I tend to stay away from star wars discourse cause in my experience, it brings out the most toxic people.
- Star trek is sci fi, star wars is fantasy. Space and robots make people compare them so much. Is that what it is?
- Star trek is people like us meeting people not like us, and was always about diversity and discovery. Star wars is people not like us who are a lot like us. It was always about rebellion.
- I love both, but star trek is written by way too many people with conflicting visions to have any sort of coherent universe to imagine things in its about thorny ethical questions and wrinkly foreheads star wars is the place to go for daydreaming and thinking up alternate histories.
- I like star wars too much to talk about it online. Its a thing i get to enjoy, or not, and people here are way too dumb to have any sort of say about it.
- All i know about star wars is that after being on the internet and hearing people talk about it i have lost all interest or nostalgia i had in it. The fandom ruined it for me, i just feel vaguely nauseated when i see it discussed anymore.
4. La Reevaluación de las Precuelas y la Nostalgia.
Las precuelas de Star Wars siguen siendo un tema de intensa reevaluación. Mientras que la nostalgia y el material complementario han mejorado su percepción para las generaciones más jóvenes, los críticos originales señalan fallas en la escritura y la dirección, aunque reconocen que tenían ideas creativas que las secuelas carecen.
- The prequels have a lot of great tie-in media despite the films themselves being bad, which i think plays a part in the nostalgia filter for the people who think theyre actually good movies.
- I can point out and praise dozens upon dozens of elements from the prequels that arent three or four scenes of revenge of the sith or the duel with darth maul.
- I grew up with the prequels and didnt hate jar jar either. But, like, its ok to have silly things in serious things sometimes. It makes it more bearable for people like me.
- The prequels are awful, but awful in that idiosyncratic way that only people with massive pull in hollywood can get away with. The sequels, where they are bad, are bad in the same way most modern blockbusters are.
- Theyre not good movies and have all the much-discussed issues with dialogue, acting, characters, etc. That people say. However, they did have ideas, and a story to tell, which is more than i can say for the sequel trilogy.
- I still dont understand how folks can rank any sequel film below any prequel film.