1. El Patriarcado como Causa del Sufrimiento Masculino.
La discusión central identifica al patriarcado como el sistema fundamental que impone y define la masculinidad, siendo la raíz del daño y sufrimiento que experimentan los niños y hombres al establecer normas restrictivas y perjudiciales.
- I'm gonna do the hot take thing fashionably late: the problem is patriarchy, like it's patriarchy that enforces masculinity at all, that sets and moves the goal posts, it's patriarchy that is hurting boys, the whole thing is patriarchy.
- Also the boys suffer from patriarchy just in different ways. And no small number of men would rather be a low status male in patriarchy then treat women as equals. The boys are suffering and a lot of that comes from the abuse and emotional neglect of patriarchy.
- It’s a hard world for young men because patriarchy is a shit system that hurts everyone.
- My only comment on the “young men are lost” discourse is that patriarchy works like whiteness. Both harm everyone. Including the very people they purport to elevate.
2. La Represión Emocional y sus Consecuencias.
El patriarcado enseña a los niños a reprimir sus emociones, etiquetándolas como "femeninas" y, por lo tanto, débiles. Esta supresión emocional conduce a problemas de salud mental, incapacidad para conectar con otros y, en casos extremos, a la violencia y la sociopatía.
- Patriarchy is the very thing telling boys their suffering is irrelevant. It’s men telling boys to “man up” if they’re crying, forcing boys to shove “feminine” coded emotions down to the point of sociopathy. Dismantling that kind of thinking will benefit everyone.
- The patriarchy plays a major role in this by encouraging society to hobble young boy's emotional understanding and coping skills in favor of stoicism and repression. Resulting in a group of young men with no idea how to fit into the world and no coping skills to deal with that.
- We had a lovely conversation about how the patriarchy hurts young boys by disconnecting them from their emotional intelligence causing the violent behaviors we see today in conjunction with the increasing mental health crisis in men that isn’t being taken seriously because “boys don’t cry”.
- Patriarchy truly zaps the humanity from men by repressing emotion, discouraging empathy, rewarding isolation/“no homo” etc. All of the ways we condition/reward boys to behave simultaneously sets them up 4 failure in intimate/romantic relationships.
3. Normas Estrictas y la Búsqueda de Identidad.
El sistema patriarcal impone un molde muy estrecho y arbitrario de lo que significa "ser un hombre". Esta presión por encajar genera inseguridades que hacen a los jóvenes vulnerables a figuras como Andrew Tate, quien ofrece respuestas destructivas pero fáciles de adoptar.
- One thing patriarchy does is set very very narrow and viciously strict yet also mysterious/arbitrary limits on what it means to be a boy. The message is, fail to conform and you’re a girl, and that’s the worst thing to be. It leaves all these 3-4-5yo boys grasping desperately for the rules.
- This is a big part of it. Patriarchy tells us that there's a right way to be a man, and so young men are taught that they *must* fit a mold, or they will be punished for deviance. Tate et al provide a destructive but easily-adopted answer to all the insecurities installed by patriarchy.
- True, i mean masculinity is poorly designed under the patriarchy. It's all via negativa, you throw like a girl, don't be weak, don't be a p%ssy. Boys don't know what it means to be a man, but they know all the things it's not, and that is anything feminine. Which is a flawed dichotomy out the gate.
- Patriarchy says boys act, girls act pretty. Boys do things, girls are things. Boys want to change the world, girls want to be pretty for boys. Good ol' patriarchy, making boys who wanna be passive and girls who wanna be active invalid since eternity. Fuck 'em.
4. La Solución: Desmantelar el Sistema para Todos.
La única solución real para los problemas que enfrentan los hombres es el desmantelamiento del patriarcado. Se argumenta que el feminismo, al buscar la igualdad y la libertad, beneficia a todos los géneros, liberando a los hombres de las cadenas de la masculinidad tóxica.
- This x 100. Also, like.it's the patriarchy, stupid. You really care about the well-being of boys and men? dismantle. The. Patriarchy.
- Wow sounds toxic sure hope someone is focusing on the culprits and primary victims of this “masculinity” thing that harms boys and men too you’re talking about the patriarchy, it’s just the flip side of it. The answer is still feminism, ie equality and freedom. Feeling sorry for boys? let’s fix it.
- Let's start teaching boys that the patriarchy sucks for them and will make them miserable.
- Dismantling the patriarchy isn’t just about empowering women; it’s about freeing men from the chains of toxic masculinity. Boys deserve to cry, to be gentle, to love deeply without fear of judgment. Let’s raise a generation that leads with compassion, not control.