1. El Nombre Palantir y sus Connotaciones Oscuras.
La elección del nombre "Palantir" para la empresa de análisis de datos ha generado una fuerte reacción, ya que remite directamente a los "Palantíri" de "El Señor de los Anillos", artefactos asociados con la vigilancia, la manipulación y el mal. Esta denominación es vista por muchos como una admisión de intenciones siniestras.
- Its worth noting that palantir were the crystal balls that sauron spied on middle earth with in the lord of the rings books. It was quite an evil device, much like the application being used to track and profile every american.
- Wasnt the palantir a very sinister crystal ball in lotr? i have to wonder why a real world company would use the name.
- The article fails to mention that the term palantir is from lord of the rings. It is basically a crystal ball and its most notorious use in the books and movies is by the bad guy sauron to spy on people.
- I learnt this week to my horror that a? palantir was a means of communication in the lord of the rings but could be subverted for evil. They are trolling us, right?
- The name of the company should be a tip-off. The palantir were used to communicate with sauron, so he could manipulate their users. All the while making them believe they were the ones in control.
2. Paralelismos con Villanos de Tolkien.
Fundadores y la empresa Palantir son frecuentemente comparados con figuras antagónicas de "El Señor de los Anillos", como Sauron y Saruman. Esta analogía subraya la percepción de que la compañía encarna los ideales de control, poder absoluto y corrupción que caracterizan a estos villanos.
- My nerd brain cant unthink of palantir as saurons corruptive device from lotr and how naming your company after that is what a dumbass edgelord would do.
- Palantir is specifically something that causes powerful and arrogant men to either go crazy denethor or become corrupted to evil saruman as part of a careless hunger for knowledge and information and power. Its specifically a brutally on the nose cautionary example for men like peter thiel.
- I mean. Palantir is a tool of evil in lord of the rings. We should not be surprised that people who hose that name do evil things.
- Isnt a palantir a seeing stone used by sauron to communicate with his puppet saruman? seems like a good name for an organization built by a wanna be evil overlord.
- The fact that the company is named palantir is really fitting, considering it was the tool of choice for none other than sauron you know, the guy who wanted to conquer all of middle earth, the main antagonist to surveil middle earth. This is something straight out of a cheesy cyberpunk story.
3. La Naturaleza Ambivalente de los Palantíri Ficticios.
Aunque la mayoría asocia los Palantíri con el mal, algunos señalan que en la obra de Tolkien no eran inherentemente malignos, sino herramientas de comunicación que fueron corrompidas o mal utilizadas. Esta distinción plantea un debate sobre si la empresa Palantir es intrínsecamente perversa o si su uso determina su moralidad.
- The lotr nerd in me feels compelled to point out that the palantir were made by the elves and were useful for good until one fell into the hands of sauron. They didnt start evil.
- The appropriation of tolkien is so irritating. Although its worth noting the palantir started off good but ended up being used for evil, so i guess its an appropriate name for a tech company.
- The palantir are seeing stones and as described by gandalf not inherently evil. Aragorn wrenched control from the gondor stone to aid in the war. I see what youre saying, and i agree about that company choosing the name. But i once named a wifi network palantir purely because i am a lotr geek.
- I dunno man - but are you sure palantir isnt just proudly evil? i bet if they knew they were created by the non-inherently-evil noldor in the first age and then used by the great kings of numenor in the second, they would have picked a different name.
- Palantir is well-named. In tolkien the stones were made for long-range communication telecommunications!, but were twisted by an evildoer into a vehicle for surveillance and mind control. All of these dipshits like to think of themselves as the heirs of numenor, but theyre fucking orcs.
4. Críticas a la Apropiación de la Obra de Tolkien.
Existe un fuerte descontento entre los fans de Tolkien por el uso de nombres de su legendarium (Palantir, Andúril, Erebor, etc.) por parte de empresas tecnológicas, especialmente aquellas percibidas como "malvadas" o "fascistas". Se argumenta que esto distorsiona el mensaje original de Tolkien, que a menudo advertía contra el poder y la industrialización.
- It does annoy me that a certain billionaire uses middle earth names for all his companies. But after reflecting on palantir, a once benign tool for communication subverted and used by the dark forces, im not sure it couldnt be a more apt name for a data company.
- Fuck palantir. Peter thiel can fatwo for hijacking tolkien ip to name his evil, shitty little companies. Nazi pos.
- Techno-fascists aka technocrats using tolkiens terms like palantir to name their evil companies angers me. Palantir is the eye of sauron.
- What the hell is this fetishism of lord of the rings lore to name surveillancemilitary tech startups? palantir was awful enough, now i learn about anduril.
- I think we need to ban evidently evil companies from naming themselves using tolkien references. Looking at you, palantir objectively dangerous objects used by the bad guys hmm, maybe theres honesty there.
5. Implicaciones en la Vigilancia y el Control Moderno.
La empresa Palantir, con sus contratos gubernamentales y su enfoque en la vigilancia y el análisis de datos, es vista como una encarnación moderna de los peligros que representaban los Palantíri en la ficción. La preocupación se centra en la capacidad de la tecnología para manipular, desinformar y ejercer un control autoritario sobre la población.
- Palantir doesn't make any civilian consumer products that normal people can use, rather, they produce secretive, gatekept surveillance and data analytics technology that only the government and a select few of elite, massive corporations have access to. Funny how strong the parallel is to lotr lore.
- I always thought palantir was a lot more sinister than just a lotr or even sauruman reference. Remember that sauron used palantirs to spy on and control their users. His symbol was the eye.
- Palantir, as i recall, was one of saurons favorite surveillance tools. .as if this saga wasnt already fun enough.
- Palantir takes its name from tolkiens seeingstones powerful tools that reveal everything but can corrupt those who rely on them. A reminder that surveillance, even wellintended, can become its own danger. Peter thiel.sauron?
- Palantir is the eye of sauron. We can all agree sauron was the bad guy right? hes not even hiding the fact that hes the bad guy. And people who buy pltr stock, i loath you just as much as the man himself because you are happily making money off of human suffering.