1. El Llamamiento a la Revuelta Fiscal y el "Soft Secession".
La principal conclusión del debate es la urgencia de que los estados con mayoría demócrata (blue states) cesen el envío de impuestos federales a Washington D.C. Esta acción, a menudo denominada "soft secession" o "tax strike," se propone como la única herramienta efectiva para detener la agenda del gobierno central.
- Blue states should stop paying federal taxes. Our money is what keeps this country fed and alive. Stop fed taxes until they stop terrorizing us.
- Time for blue state governors to withhold all federal payroll taxes collected in their states, and use that money in their own states. Starve the federal government.
- Its time for blue states to start withholding federal tax money from the government. Without all that blue money, red states will fold like a house of cards.
- Blue states should absolutely stop sending income tax monies to the federal government instead use that money to help the citizens of their states.
2. La Financiación de la Opresión y el Enemigo Político.
Los participantes expresan indignación porque sus impuestos se están utilizando para financiar acciones que perciben como opresivas o punitivas, incluyendo la retención ilegal de fondos ya asignados y el apoyo a fuerzas federales en ciudades demócratas.
- We are literally funding the scumbags who want to kill us. Theres got to be a way. Theyre using our money to help assholes in red states and denying money to help blue states.
- Blue states should stop sending federal tax money to washington to fund their own oppression and jackbooted paramilitary thugs in trumps private schutzstaffel.
- Blue states need to stop all payments to the federal government as they are not providing any benefits or services.and using the donor blue states money against them by attacking them.enough is enough.
- Our tax dollars are currently being used against us. Our tax dollars are paying for aid to argentina, ice raids, and stupid meetings of the entire military leadership structure. We are funding our own demise.
3. Desequilibrio Económico y el Subsidio a los "Red States".
Un argumento recurrente es que los estados azules son "estados donantes" que aportan significativamente más en impuestos de lo que reciben en servicios federales, subsidiando así a los estados rojos ("welfare states"). La retención de fondos se ve como una forma de forzar a los estados rojos a ser autosuficientes.
- Blue states make the money red states take the money. Tired of these resentful losers robbing me blind.
- Far too much blue state revenue goes to red states. Blue states are funding the enemy.
- Sorry red states but we can no longer afford to support you.
- California oregon washington and illinois pay more federal taxes than we receive in federal services. The excess money is redistributed to red states such as texas.
4. El Principio de "No Taxation Without Representation".
La manipulación de fondos federales por parte del ejecutivo y la falta de acción del Congreso se citan como una violación del principio fundamental de "No Taxation Without Representation" (No hay impuestos sin representación), legitimando la negativa a pagar.
- No taxation without representation! when are the blue states going to stop sending the administration our hard earned money.
- Sending them money when they are refusing service and funding for states that are largely democratic is taxation without representation.
- No taxation without representation. There is zero intention of bringing the house back into session. Taxation without representation means there should be no tax given to the feds.
- If the executive branch illegally refuses to disburse money that the democratically elected legislative branch has legislatively disbursed, well. Thats taxation without representation.
5. Desafíos Logísticos y Mecanismos Propuestos.
Aunque la demanda es clara, la implementación enfrenta desafíos logísticos, ya que la mayoría de los impuestos federales se recaudan directamente de los cheques de nómina. Se proponen soluciones como cuentas de depósito (escrow accounts) o cambios en las retenciones individuales (W4).
- I dont know of a way to hold that money back.
- All blue states need to stop sending any federal tax money to the government. It needs to be put into an escrow account.
- You know federal taxes are automatically taken out of your paychecks and sent to the government without state involvement right?
- I will not pay taxes under this administration. I am setting the money aside. They can have it when they return our democracy.