1. La Transfobia como Manifestación de la Misoginia.
Los usuarios argumentan que la transfobia no es un prejuicio aislado, sino una forma de misoginia. Sostienen que ambos fenómenos comparten la misma raíz: el mantenimiento del poder patriarcal, la regulación de los cuerpos y la imposición de roles de género estrictos. La transfobia se presenta como una "nueva versión" o una "capa extra" de la misoginia tradicional.
- Not surprisingly, transphobia and misogyny go hand-in-hand. Both are used to maintain patriarchal power.
- Misogyny is the foundation for most transphobia. I've yet to see a transphobe who doesn't fall back on "men are better than women" frequently.
- I've said it before and i will say it again: transphobia is misogyny. When targeting trans women it's to "protect cis women" and trans men are ignored "because they are really women.".
- Just further proof that transphobia is a new flavor of misogyny. Just one with an easier target.
- Transphobia and misogyny are one and the same. The patriarchy’s need to control women: * trans men aren’t allowed to opt out of being a target for objectification. * trans women aren’t allowed to “surprise” them when they objectify our bodies.
- Can't be a feminist and transphobic. Transphobia is misogyny. Trans people are the acceptable target of misogyny.
2. Transmisoginia: La Experiencia de las Mujeres Trans.
Se destaca que las mujeres trans son el principal objetivo de la violencia transfóbica debido a una forma específica de odio llamada "transmisoginia". Esta se define como la intersección de la transfobia y la misoginia, donde las mujeres trans son vistas como el grupo más socialmente aceptable para oprimir. Su existencia desafía la noción patriarcal de la superioridad masculina, ya que "renuncian" a un estatus privilegiado.
- Transmisogyny is literally just misogyny; trans women are just the most socially acceptable group of women to oppress. You ever see a misogynist treat trans women with respect because we're "men"? fuck no.
- Transphobia is absolutely misogyny. Trans men are just silly little girls who are confused and have been tricked by men, whereas trans women must be nefarious because why would anyone ever "choose" to be the lesser sex?
- The misogyny is on so many levels. 1) they hate trans women for giving up male privilege. 2) they can’t believe that a biologically male person would not easily beat biological females in physical competitions. 3) woman have to be protected from what scares men instead of losing our human rights!
- Trans women threaten toxic masculinity, transphobia is often another effect of misogyny, they think men are superior, but that can't work when some people consciously choose not to be men.
- If there were no trans women, only trans men, nobody would even think about their persecution. Transphobia is the ultimate misogyny.
3. El Impacto de la Misoginia en los Hombres Trans.
Se debate cómo los hombres trans también son víctimas de la misoginia, aunque de una manera distinta. Los transfóbicos a menudo los perciben como "mujeres confundidas" o "traidoras" que intentan escapar de su rol asignado. El odio hacia ellos se basa en la idea de que están "destruyendo" a una mujer, lo que demuestra que la agresión sigue enmarcada en una lógica misógina que busca controlar los cuerpos asignados como femeninos al nacer.
- The misogyny trans men get is also just so fucked. I'm not saying that trans men are women. But transphobes see them as women and so the hatred towards them is misogyny too.
- It's misogyny for all of us! it just takes different forms, and for trans men it's an anger at 'destroying' a woman they could have had.
- People are soo good at understanding that misogyny affects cis men too but as soon as you call transphobia towards trans mascs misogyny it's like oh so you're a woman??
- This is a wild take considering some of the biggest transphobic comments tranmascs get is that they are "trying to escape femininity" or that they "couldn't cut it as a woman". If that's not misogyny and transphobia at the same time i don't know what is.
- Misogyny is inflicted on trans men because cis-het society sees you as a broken, but repairable, woman. They’re wrong, obviously.
4. La Compleja e Indivisible Relación entre Odios.
Los comentarios reflejan la dificultad de separar la transfobia de la misoginia, describiéndolas como fenómenos entrelazados y superpuestos. Se reconoce que cada grupo dentro de la comunidad trans experimenta la misoginia de "diferentes sabores", pero que esta es el motor subyacente del odio. Se cuestionan términos como "misandria" y se enfatiza que el sistema de opresión es el mismo, aunque se manifieste de forma distinta.
- Honestly the way misogyny and transphobia are intertwined makes it hard to distinguish where one begins and the other ends.
- Trans feminine and trans masculine and nonbinary people all experience misogyny in different flavors but misogyny is the wind beneath the wings of everyone who hates them.
- Im confused, is this this transphobia or misogyny? maybe we should'nt define a difference between the two and just say it's both.
- You’re all good my point was it’s all misogyny. Trans men and trans women are victimized in different ways but it all comes from hatred of women. Terfy types who try to separate the struggles of trans folks from cis women forget how our oppression is all from the same patriarchal machine.
- It's the axis of oppression really, both transphobia and misogyny and how they intersect. I personally feel trans men sit at a very similar intersection there, perhaps in a different way. It's just weird to use the word misogyny for trans men i guess? that's the holdup?