1. Acusaciones de Misoginia contra los "Bernie Bros".
Una parte significativa de la conversación se centra en las acusaciones de que los partidarios de Bernie Sanders, denominados "Bernie Bros", exhibieron un comportamiento misógino y tóxico en línea. Se les acusa de acosar, intimidar y usar lenguaje sexista contra quienes apoyaban a candidatas rivales, creando un ambiente hostil que muchos consideraron perjudicial para el partido.
- I'm a genderqueer leftist. I was bullied, targeted and hounded by bernie bros in 2016. You have no idea. Direct misogyny: i was told i was ugly, called a dyke, i was called stupid. All because i supported elizabeth warren in the primary.
- I do love some of bernie’s ideals but the bernie bros are inundated with misogyny. And it’s a problem. They aren’t willing to be reasoned with and convincing them they are spouting rhetoric and propaganda from the right doesn’t seem to work either.
- I'm constantly reminded of the misogyny both clinton and warren received from the bernie bros. I realized that many were bots, but certainly not all. The ones i encountered in the real world were absolutely flesh & blood. Bernie never publicly called them out, never shut them up.
- The “bernie bros” hate and misogyny towards hrc supporters was ugly and real, and bernie’s failure to denounce it and snuff it out has forever tainted my view of him, even as i agree with many of his policies.
2. El Rol Personal de Bernie Sanders.
Varios comentarios culpan directamente a Bernie Sanders, no solo a sus seguidores. Las críticas van desde acusarlo de tener sus propias tendencias misóginas hasta responsabilizarlo por no condenar enérgicamente el comportamiento de sus partidarios. Algunos argumentan que sus acciones y retórica durante las primarias contribuyeron a un clima que permitió que la misoginia prosperara.
- Sorry. I'm not going to ignore or forget that bernie's misogyny helped give us trump in the first place. My memory still goes back to 2016.
- You're funny, bernie is the king of misogyny and he's tainted white men for over a decade with his racist and sexist bullshit.
- Bernie supporter in 2016, the toxicity and misogyny that he allowed and never disavowed? will never forgive that. Ever.
- And my god, if you cannot see bernie's sexism & misogyny, as obvious as it is in nearly every action and word he spews, it makes me wonder about you. The way he treats, talks down to, and talks over women is legendary.
3. Contraargumentos y Explicaciones Alternativas.
En oposición a las acusaciones, varios usuarios defienden que la oposición a candidatas como Hillary Clinton no se basaba en la misoginia, sino en diferencias políticas legítimas, como sus vínculos con Wall Street o su historial político. Otros sugieren que la narrativa del "Bernie Bro misógino" fue una campaña de desprestigio, una operación psicológica rusa para dividir a los demócratas, o una excusa para ignorar las fallas de las candidatas.
- That ain't misogyny, it's leftism. I'm a leftist and sanders supporter. I voted kamala, but damn she's a mess of a candidate. She wasn't gonna save us.
- No. Not misogyny. Hillary sucked as a candidate. Brck and bernie were much better candidates that wall street hillary.
- “bernie bros” misogyny was a russian psyops during 2016 to divide the dems- it worked so well people still believe it today. People need to shed that fallacy.
- It's the continued imaginary that supporting sanders over clinton was purely based in misogyny and not, y'know other political differences between them.
4. Impacto en las Candidatas y la Política.
El debate también aborda el impacto más amplio de esta supuesta misoginia en las candidatas y en la política estadounidense. Muchos sostienen que la misoginia fue un factor clave en las derrotas de Hillary Clinton y Kamala Harris, y que candidatas como Elizabeth Warren enfrentaron ataques sexistas desproporcionados. Se discute cómo el sexismo, tanto en la izquierda como en la derecha, sigue siendo una barrera importante para las mujeres que buscan el poder político.
- Misogyny killed hillary's campaign, just as it killed kamala's campaign. There is no way that white men were going to allow a woman to be president, no less a woman of color. Misogyny/racism won.
- I think the best example of this is elizabeth warren who was very similar to bernie politically but had some of the grossest stuff thrown at her.
- The misogyny from the bernie left is really something. How dare women seek representation, it’s not like laws are passed to regulate our bodies or anything. Good look ever winning anything without women, bud.
- Warren is twice as good as bernie.but, she doesn't have a voice like rfk, bernie has that type of voice. I admire what bernie is doing, but warren would be on her second term without misogyny on the left.