1. Taylor Swift: Barómetro de la Misoginia.
Gran parte del debate se centra en Taylor Swift, donde tanto el odio como la crítica hacia ella son frecuentemente interpretados como un reflejo de misoginia, ya sea explícita o internalizada. Se discute si el simple hecho de no gustar de su música califica como tal.
- People who don't like taylor swift are suffering from internalized misogyny or straight up misogyny.
- Misogyny is not "disliking something a woman did" i am so fucking tired. Not liking a taylor swift album is not "casual misogyny".
- Whenever i think a group of men is becoming feminists i bring up taylor swift. The misogyny enters the chat so quickly.
- Still dying on the hill that swift hate is straight up misogyny. Like, how dare a woman be successful and create art that emotionally impacts literally millions of people?
- The "misogyny" thing coming up when you criticize taylor swift is really a gross little online tic. I like lots of women artists and cultural figures. I have liked some of taylor's stuff tbh. Thinking one person is being sort of gross and privileged is not prejudiced.
2. La Misoginia en Diversos Géneros Musicales.
Se reconoce que la misoginia no es exclusiva de un solo género, sino un problema generalizado en la industria musical. Se mencionan ejemplos en el rap, rock, pop y hip-hop, destacando cómo las letras y la cultura de cada género perpetúan estereotipos y actitudes misóginas.
- Misogyny had been ingrained in real since it's fruition. I'm not talking culture. Misogyny is a huge part of a lot of rap music, it is what is it.
- No more misogyny in hip hop than good auld rock and roll or country music the music industry is a cesspit and fame goes to some peoples heads badly.
- Three songs into an album by any moderately successful alt rock band from the 90s there’s always a distinct chance you’re about to hear the most shocking misogyny you’ve ever heard.
- “rap is a bad genre because it promotes misogyny!” and then they listen to scene music that calls women bitches and sluts like ok cracker.
- Listening to all the music i did as a teen and in my 20s and being like, "yo, what's with all the misogyny in rock and metal music?".
3. Misoginia Internalizada y la Crítica entre Mujeres.
Varios comentarios exploran el concepto de misoginia internalizada, donde las propias mujeres critican o rechazan a artistas femeninas populares. Se debate si esto se debe a una aversión genuina o a la adopción inconsciente de prejuicios misóginos culturales.
- It’s hard to be excited for a new album when i hated the last album and don’t love the company that person keeps. I know! i know, it’s just internalize misogyny.
- Man i am so happy i stopped hating women artists for simply being popular (swift most of all) that internal misogyny is killerr.
- I used to hate folk/rock/pop/country women singer/songwriters when i was young, citing that my mom played them too frequently for me to enjoy. I think it was internalized misogyny too.
- The vent diagram of people who hate taylor swift and the people who have unresolved internalized misogyny is a circle.
- One of my first ever tweets in the late 00s/early 10s was about birdy’s “people help the people” and how awful it was. I didn’t listen to a lot of female artists back then so i wondered if it wasn’t just subconscious/ingrained misogyny….
4. La Misoginia "Aceptable": Cuando la Música "Pega".
Una perspectiva recurrente es la tolerancia hacia la misoginia en la música si la canción es considerada un éxito o "un banger". Esto plantea un conflicto entre el disfrute estético y los principios éticos, donde el ritmo o la melodía pueden eclipsar letras problemáticas.
- I think it’s like listening to misery business by paramore or better than revenge by taylor swift. A little misogyny is ok only if it slaps.
- Listen i have issues with the casual misogyny in this song but at the same time it fucking bangs.
- I can accept misogyny sometimes if it's a banger. I still listen to everywhere i go by hollywood undead occasionally.
- Misogyny always comes back for us one way or another….this time it’s in the form of an absolute og banger.
- I used to ask why we like music that literally demeans us on every other bar and all my life i was told it was cultural and that it doesn’t make me a pick me to sing along to misogyny lol but i am old now and i have decided that it is actually pick me behavior to like misogyny in music sorry.