1. El Argumento "Es Solo Ficción": Una Defensa Cuestionada.
El uso de "es solo ficción" como excusa para contenido racista es un punto central de debate. Muchos argumentan que esta defensa ignora el poder de las historias para moldear percepciones y perpetuar estereotipos dañinos que tienen consecuencias en el mundo real.
- Real quick i am the first to defend fiction but "it's fiction" does not apply to white people gleefully excited to explicitly model their oc and their story after real life racist people and institutions because at that point it is quite obvious that it is not longer just fiction.
- Stories are extremely powerful and it’s at best dishonest to hide behind “it’s just fiction” when that “fiction” is deliberately written to advance a worldview. In this case, a very racist worldview.
- Fiction does to some extent affect reality and i am begging people to realize that. This goes beyond stupid pro/anti discourse this is more so aimed at people trying to trojan horse racism into kink and nsfw spaces and make it even more difficult for us to navigate it.
- I'm getting sick of the narrative that fiction doesn't affect irl when said fiction relies on racist and harmful tropes that affect people in real life.
2. Proyección y Fantasía Blanca en la Narrativa.
Se observa una tendencia en la que autores y audiencias blancas proyectan sus propios prejuicios raciales en mundos de ficción. Esto incluye la creación de escenarios distópicos donde experimentan opresiones históricamente sufridas por personas de color.
- Some of these people are projecting their own racism into their little fictional world using existing fiction (non-racist) and they make it racist because they’re fucking racists like there’s not even a doubt you know.
- It's the same shit as white people getting way too excited to cosplay fantasy racism in wow or ffxiv, rushing to make up slurs for elves and dwarves and miqo'te and elezen and stuff. Within every white nerd, there's a deep ache to be a hateful bigot, and it often expresses itself in fiction.
- Modern dystopia fiction and alien invasion stuff is just “what if things white people did to nonwhite people happened to the white people themselves?” i made a tongue in cheek joke once and now i cant unsee it.
- It's this specific feat of mental gymnastics that people do that drives me nuts. It's related to eg the impulse for white people to write dystopian speculative fiction where they get treated the way the us is treated brown people right now (hello, handmaid's tale).
3. La "Raza" como Ficción, el Racismo como Realidad.
Una idea recurrente es la distinción entre "raza" como un constructo social ficticio y el "racismo" como un sistema de opresión con consecuencias tangibles y devastadoras. La ficción, en este contexto, se convierte en la base de una realidad dolorosa.
- Racist-motivated. White supremacy is real. Racism is real. “race” is fiction. Skin color is real.
- Race, as we have come to understand it, is a fiction; but, racism, as we have come to live it, is a fact. The point here is not to impose a new racial hierarchy, but to remove an existing one.
- Everyone’s racism is based on fiction lol given that it’s inherently irrational there’s really no other way to arrive at it.
- Race is political fiction from colonialism days. All humans are the same people.
4. El Impacto Histórico y la Responsabilidad del Creador.
La ficción ha sido históricamente una herramienta para solidificar estereotipos racistas que persisten hasta hoy. Esto plantea preguntas sobre la responsabilidad de los creadores al abordar temas de racismo, ya sea de forma directa o metafórica, y el impacto que sus obras tienen en la sociedad.
- Fiction has been used and weaponized to create harmful stereotypes around people of color, especially black people, for centuries. An animation made over 100 years ago still controls how people view black people in the us. These views have lead to inequality, racism, and death.
- Historically, fiction has been fascism and racism's greatest weapon. The birth of a nation (1915) solidified racist stereotypes that still exist and are believed today. Racist stereotypes that black people have been attacked and killed for.
- And also i have to say it’s incredibly dicey to say that readings of racism into a work are only valid if it is from a proclaimed racist. Unconscious racial bias colors many, many works of art and fiction. Even from “the good guys”.
- Tfw fiction authors betray their whiteness by describing one character as “a young woman” and another as “a young black woman”. It’s kind of a fedex arrow of systemic racism, perhaps.