1. La Soberanía Fronteriza: La Responsabilidad de EE. UU.
El argumento principal sostiene que la seguridad de una frontera es responsabilidad del país que recibe el flujo de personas y mercancías. Los usuarios enfatizan que al ingresar a Estados Unidos desde Canadá, son los agentes estadounidenses quienes realizan las inspecciones, por lo que cualquier falla en la detección de fentanilo recae en las autoridades de EE. UU.
- If fentanyl is entering the us, it’s the us border guards that are responsible for finding it and stopping it not canada! lol.
- Um, isn't it canada's job to police what's coming in to our side of the border and the us' job to police what's coming across on their side, not the other way around? you guys are the ones responsible for the fentanyl getting across your border. That's how borders work.
- I don't mean to be all technical, but it is the job of us customs and border patrol to stop drugs going into the us. That's how the border works. Going into the us, we talk to us border guards, coming home- canadian. So wouldn't fentanyl going into the us not actually be their fault?
- The u.s. Is responsible for any fentanyl that comes in to the country. Not canada. Not mexico. Expecting a neighboring country to manage or take responsibility for another’s borders undermines national sovereignty and shifts accountability away from where it rightfully belongs.
- He really doesn't understand that the u.s. Is responsible for keeping their own borders safe, does he? no one goes through customs to leave their country. You go through customs to enter a country. So if fentanyl is getting in, it's up to the u.s. To train their customs and border patrol better.
2. Cuestionando la Magnitud del Problema desde Canadá.
Existe un fuerte escepticismo sobre la afirmación de que grandes cantidades de fentanilo provienen de Canadá. Muchos comentarios califican esta idea como una fabricación política o una exageración, señalando que el flujo principal de la droga proviene de otras regiones, como México, y que la cantidad atribuida a Canadá es insignificante.
- Here we ago again with the large amounts of fentanyl that are not coming from canada. Someone please tell him that is the us responsibility to secure your border.
- 1. Fentanyl from canada is not flowing into the us. How can canada possibly compete with the river of fentanyl coming from mexico? makes no sense. 2. The us is responsible for guarding their own borders!!
- There's very little evidence that fentanyl cross the canadian border into the us is a significant problem. And besides, if it was, that would be on the us to step up their patrols.
- I’m so confused. Our own government says that the amount of fentanyl coming from canada is about 0.1% of the total. Any amount is bad but isn’t it the job of our agents to stop it at the border? make it make sense.
- Breaking through the disinformation firehose: there is no fentanyl problem from the canadian side of the border, it’s the usa that is the problem.
3. Un Problema Inverso: El Flujo de Armas de EE. UU. a Canadá.
Como contraargumento, se menciona repetidamente el problema del tráfico ilegal de armas de fuego desde Estados Unidos hacia Canadá. Los usuarios utilizan este punto para resaltar una aparente hipocresía, sugiriendo que si Canadá es responsable de lo que sale de su territorio, entonces EE. UU. debería serlo del flujo de armas hacia el norte.
- Stop fentanyl from going into the usa and we'll stop guns from coming into canada.
- Btw, isn’t the us responsible for its own border? and what about all of the illegal firearms coming into canada from the us?
- Canada and mexico are not responsible for protecting the american border. Protect your own damn border & keep drugs out. 5% of fentanyl comes from canada. Meanwhile 90% of illegal firearms in canada are coming from the us.
- Maybe americans should get better control of their border! you need the ones who need to stop the fentanyl from entering your country. Plus, maybe put some effort into curbing demand. We canadians need to work on what's coming from the us into our country--like illegal guns.
- Fact: more fentanyl crossed from the usa into zcanada than from canada to the us !! guns only go from the us into canada. Why is canada being held responsible for the border problem when it is actually an american made problem?
4. El Papel de los Ciudadanos Estadounidenses en el Tráfico.
Varios comentarios señalan que la mayoría de las personas arrestadas por contrabandear fentanilo a través de la frontera norte son ciudadanos estadounidenses. Esto refuerza la idea de que el problema del fentanilo es una cuestión interna de EE. UU., impulsada por su propia demanda y ejecutada por sus propios ciudadanos.
- Fentanyl is smuggled across the us border, which is controlled by us law enforcement, by us citizens for consumption by us citizens. How is that the fault of either canada or mexico?
- If (and that's a big if) fentanyl is coming through the canadian border, isn't that the fault of the us border authorities for missing it? ... And most people caught smuggling it are us citizens anyway!
- Fun fact: almost everyone carrying what little fentanyl comes across the canada-us border into the us is american (as are the people who carry the larger volume going the other way).
- Let's speak the truth about the fentanyl coming across both borders. American born citizens are bringing the fentanyl into the u.s. It is not immigrants or anyone else! americans are also responsible for bringing guns illegally into both canada and mexico. Got it?
- Never ceases to amaze me how maga & trump can say the following with a straight face “canada and mexico are allowing fentanyl to come in” he means into the u.s. Fentanyl is almost exclusively brought into the country by u.s. Citizens isn’t it our job to keep our citizens from bringing stuff in?