1. Incompatibilidad Fundamental y Corrupción por el Dinero.
Una tesis central del archivo es que el capitalismo, impulsado por la codicia y la acumulación de riqueza, es inherentemente antitético a la democracia. La concentración masiva de capital se considera corrosiva, ya que permite a los intereses corporativos y a los oligarcas dictar la política, anulando la voz pública.
- Democracy and capitalism are not compatible. Capitalism has smothered democracy because the greed is too great.
- Capitalism is incompatible with democracy. You can literally only have one or the other, you cant have both.
- Massive concentrations of wealth are inherently corrosive to democracy. Capitalism is a system meant to create massive concentrations of wealth. Capitalism itself is inherently anti-democratic.
- Capitalism corrupts democracy. When profit dictates policy, it overrides the public voice. We need systems built on accountability, equity, and collective stewardship not exploitation.
2. La Democracia como Ilusión y el Ascenso de la Oligarquía.
Muchos participantes en la discusión sostienen que la democracia bajo el capitalismo es un mito o una fachada. Argumentan que el sistema político ha sido comprado por la élite corporativa, resultando en una "dictadura del capital" o una "monarquía corporativa" donde las elecciones solo ofrecen una elección limitada entre "títeres preseleccionados".
- Democracy under capitalism is a myth both parties were purchased on the free market you are a wageslave you do what youre told when youre told and how youre told all day every day until you die you are expected to believe this is freedom and democracy.
- We do not have a democracy. We have a corporate monarchy. We have a fucking illuminati.
- What democracy? voting for one of 2 puppets is not democracy capitalism and democracy are incompatible.
- Bourgeois democracy is not a democracy of the people but a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie.
3. La Solución: Democracia Económica y Socialismo.
La alternativa propuesta para salvar la democracia política es la implementación de la democracia económica, a menudo vinculada al socialismo o al socialismo democrático. Esto implica democratizar la economía, otorgando poder a los trabajadores sobre sus condiciones materiales y promoviendo la propiedad colectiva para contrarrestar la tiranía económica de los multimillonarios.
- Political democracy without economic democracy is just theaterfreedom cant exist when capital rules every corner of life. Socialism classwar economicdemocracy.
- Capitalism democracy. There can be no democracy if workers do not have democratic power over what happens to their material conditions.
- If the workers owned the company they worked for, like under socialism it would be more of a democratic structure and not a direct threat to democracy.
- The choice is what it was a century ago socialism as democracys base or barbarism. Can american democracy survive without it?
4. El Rol del Neoliberalismo y la Autorregulación.
El neoliberalismo y el capitalismo sin restricciones son señalados como los principales catalizadores de la crisis democrática actual. Se argumenta que la falta de regulación ha permitido que la codicia corporativa destruya las instituciones democráticas, llevando a un sistema que favorece la autocracia y el autoritarismo sobre la libertad y la igualdad.
- Our democracy is failing because it is combined with unfettered capitalism, with zero sense of responsibility for each other.
- Neoliberalism has disintegrated any idea of democracy in the west. We have a facsimile of democracy in which multiple parties with identical policies argue about which aesthetics to employ while executing these policies.
- Capitalism worked-ish with regulation. We gutted the regulation and now capitalism is destroying everything. Free market can fuck itself. Neo-liberalism too.
- Democracy will die no matter what if we continue down this capitalist way of life democracy capitalism cant exist in the same place capitalism calls for using up everything for profit.