1. Escocia como víctima y participante del colonialismo.
El debate se centra en si Escocia fue principalmente una víctima del colonialismo inglés o un participante activo en el colonialismo británico, con opiniones divididas sobre la responsabilidad histórica y las implicaciones para la identidad nacional.
- Its settler colonialism because the scots wouldnt admit they were colonisers, they're poor victims of colonialism.
- One of the real complexities about scottish/welsh nationalism is that it focuses on them being victims of english colonialism which, like. They absolutely *were*, but they were also very willing participants in it!
- This is made doubly offensive by the fact that scotland was, historically, a nation that practiced colonialism.
2. La independencia escocesa y la descolonización.
Muchos ven la independencia de Escocia como un acto de descolonización necesario para lograr la autodeterminación y liberarse del control inglés, mientras que otros cuestionan si la situación actual califica como colonialismo.
- I’m a full advocate of decolonisation. Scotland and ireland deserve their sovereignty away from english rule and colonial control.
- Vote to reclaim/liberate/decolonise our scotland independence for scotland isp independents for independence i4i sovereignty no fork-tongued traitors involved!
- I've always thought if you're against colonialism, then you should support countries who want to break free from it. And that includes scotland and definitely ireland.
3. Definiciones y percepciones del colonialismo en el contexto escocés.
Existe un debate sobre si la relación entre Escocia e Inglaterra puede definirse como colonialismo, con diferentes interpretaciones de la historia y la situación política y económica actual.
- So the british nationalists are now in denial that scotland was ever a colony? but it was. Not maybe according to the narrow classical 19th century economic definitions. But according the latest more broader understanding of colonialism it most certainly was - and in many senses still is.
- Colonialism is not that difficult to understand. Colonialism is first and foremost economic plunder. Everything is taken from the country cheaply – oil & gas, energy, aggregates, food, whisky – with goods sold back to the natives at higher cost.
- Westminster, labour, tories, libdems, reform, royal family, bbc, bbcscotland, itv, stv, sky, & newspapers all try to convince us scotland isn't a colony even though we're not allowed to make our own decisions but even if it was colonialism is normal. It's not, un & 68 former colonies say its not.
4. El papel de Escocia en el Imperio Británico.
Se discute la participación de los escoceses en la administración y expansión del Imperio Británico, incluyendo su involucramiento en la esclavitud y otras formas de explotación colonial.
- Wow! intelligent stuff. I'm a scouser, want to compare who has the most irish background? scotland was an enthusiastic participant in colonialism. You can't answer that charge of hypocrisy without resorting to abuse, no point in wasting time with you.
- Exactly! it's also especially dishonest given scotland very much took part in colonialism and empire. It wasn't some unwilling party forced into it by the english.
- Does erasing from history scotland's role in colonialism and the british empire really help your cause?
5. Impacto cultural y económico del "colonialismo" en Escocia.
Se exploran las consecuencias de la unión con Inglaterra en la cultura, la economía y la capacidad de Escocia para tomar decisiones independientes, con acusaciones de explotación de recursos y supresión cultural.
- Cultural colonialism in a street sign. Think of the cringing, parochial mentality that allowed this and recognise that it is reborn in unionist politicians who want nothing less than an english province of scotlandshire for the great european nation formerly known as scotland.
- Scotland who's govt legally has to balance it's books every year and isn't allowed to borrow.that scotland? wake up and smell the colonialism people.
- There’s only one union, and the words “ireland and wales conquered by force, scotland, conquered by treaty” are spoken in whitehall’s ivory towers. And when one country controls another countries spending and steals its resources i think we can ‘seriously’ call that colonialism.