La Crítica al Billionario Vigilante: Batman como Símbolo de Desigualdad.
Una parte significativa de la discusión se centra en la figura de Batman, argumentando que su riqueza y métodos son inherentemente problemáticos, ineficientes o incluso fascistas, especialmente al enfocarse en castigar a los pobres en lugar de abordar las causas sistémicas del crimen.
- Batman is a shit superhero. For a billionaire, the way in which he uses his wealth to help gotham city is so incredibly inefficient that it is pretty much just vanity cosplay.
- Batman is a billionaire preserving the class system. Perhaps some of those terrifying batman villains are like most villains, wholly justified and secret protagonists lol. This is the generally accepted meta theme of hollywood.
- Batman is a cop, but much like them he is also not there to enforce the law. He has access to unlimited funding and is here to kick the shit out of you, while protecting a billionaire with his life.
- A narcissistic billionaire who uses his wealth not to uplift and create lasting safety nets for marginalized people, but to buy toys and dress up to fight criminals who are born of his and his class rape of the world.
- The most disturbing superhero is batman. A billionaire who, rather than investing his fortune on improving gotham, spends it on making high-tech gadgetry so he hunt and kill the victims of the massive inequality he created by hoarding money.
Superman: El Inmigrante Idealista Contra el Billionario Megalómano.
Superman es frecuentemente defendido como el héroe de la gente, un inmigrante que lucha por la verdad y la justicia, cuyo némesis arquetípico es un multimillonario egoísta y corrupto (Lex Luthor), lo que resuena fuertemente con las críticas modernas al poder corporativo.
- Superman is a heroic immigrant. Lex luthor is an evil billionaire. Only people who root for the bad guy question this.
- Superman was wonderful but different than what you would expect, in good ways. An immigrant standing up to a piece of shit billionaire felt so goddamn right.
- Hes a solar-powered immigrant who fights for truth and justice and foil the schemes of an egotistical billionaire. No wonder republicans hate him. Superman.
- Also, supermans 1 enemy is a corrupt, cruel billionaire. Superman is about an immigrant fighting to save the world from an evil billionaire.
- Remember, at its core, superman is about a hard-working, undocumented immigrant who takes on a xenophobic, megalomaniacal billionaire bent on world domination.
El Elemento Fantástico: La Incredulidad en la Ficción del Billionario Bueno.
Muchos usuarios señalan que la parte más irrealista de las historias de superhéroes no son los poderes sobrenaturales, sino la existencia de un multimillonario con poder ilimitado que elige ser inherentemente bueno o ético, contrastando con la realidad de los magnates actuales.
- Been saying it for years, but the biggest suspension of disbelief with anything batman related is that a billionaire with unchecked power would be good.
- If theres anything all this has proved to me its that good billionaire bruce wayne is more fantastical than an alien clark kent.
- I think batman is the only good billionaire. Not because he fights crime, but because hes fictional.
- The most unbelievable part of batman mythology these days is that a billionaire would in any way use their immense wealth to help other people comicsky webcomics.
- I lost the origin of the quote, but somebody pointed out that a billionaire fighting crime is less believable than a baby rocketed here from krypton to be adopted and develop super powers.
Lex Luthor y la Parodia del Billionario Moderno.
La representación de Lex Luthor, especialmente en versiones recientes, es vista como un reflejo directo y aterrador de los magnates tecnológicos y políticos contemporáneos, haciendo que su villanía sea más creíble que la de otros villanos de cómics.
- One of the strongest aspects of superman was letting luthors motivation simply be oh, you think youre soo much better than everyone else, fuck you. If theres anything weve learned from recent history, a billionaire being cartoonishly evil for the pettiest reason is the most realistic choice.
- I really like the movie but the only thing i found unrealistic was the billionaire being punished. Yeah.
- Lex luthor is a white american billionaire whos pissed that an immigrant is getting all the love and respect he feels entitled to. His entire grudge against superman is based in xenophobia.
- I thought the new superman movie was fantastic. This film gives us the best cinematic version of lex luthor yet. Hes a tech-bro billionaire sociopath à la musk, thiel, and bezos with a pinch of zuckerberg.
- I think what the new superman got right about lex luthor is in todays world you can be making pretty obvious supervillain moves, but if you are a billionaire youre still welcome at davos.
Consecuencias y Responsabilidad: La Fantasía de la Justicia.
Un tema recurrente es la fantasía de ver a un multimillonario poderoso enfrentar consecuencias reales por sus crímenes, algo que se considera el aspecto más irreal de las películas de Superman en comparación con la impunidad percibida en la vida real.
- The most unrealistic part of superman was when a billionaire was held accountable for his crimes.
- The most unrealistic part of superman movie was that a single news story could stop a billionaire.
- Spent a couple hours living in the fantasy world of the new superman movie where when it comes out a billionaire colluded with foreign dictators he goes to jail.
- The hardest thing about the superman movie to swallow wasnt a man who can fly in a cape with a super powered dog, it was a billionaire actually being punished for his crimes.
- The real fantasy of superman is that the media would actually hold a billionaire to account instead of making excuses for him.
Iron Man y Tony Stark: El Billionario como Héroe Problemático.
La discusión se extiende a Iron Man, donde se cuestiona si Tony Stark habría sido el mismo héroe sin su inmensa riqueza, contrastando su papel como industrialista y proveedor de tecnología con el de otros héroes más "humanos" o de clase media.
- I know the story, but why is the us president who in this case is the billionaire villain, trying to present himself as the hero superman?
- Genius, billionaire, playboy, philanthropist. Cosplay marvel marvelcomics tonystark ironman tonystarkcosplay.
- Would tony stark be tony stark if he wasnt a billionaire? no, he wouldnt. But an equally important question is would tony stark have saved the world if carol danvers hadnt saved him first?
- I dont think they ever explained who sold lila. The evil billionaire kids version of the hellfire club during the utopia era had one member whose family was big in intergalactic slavery.
- The billionaire thing is too heavily leaned on. - tony is the kind of wealth that will spend whatever he needs to in order to do the coolest shit possible. Hes not trying to amass more wealth. Thats the key difference.
La Relevancia Política de Superman y la Reacción de la Derecha.
La naturaleza inherentemente política de Superman (inmigrante, periodista, luchador contra el poder corporativo) ha provocado reacciones negativas en sectores conservadores, quienes prefieren la narrativa de Batman o ven al personaje como "woke".
- I expected the right would turn on superman for being an immigrant protecting humanity whose biggest enemy is a billionaire ceo. The fact theyre only just now starting to catch on is.also expected.
- Oh no! how are those precious, delicate incel fans going to react when they discover supermans biggest enemy, lex luthor, is since 1986 a billionaire who uses his money and connections to commit evil?
- Yep. Literally an illegal alien whos nemesis is a billionaire. What exactly are conservatives expecting?
- Magas latest freakout a movie where an immigrant that cares about the well being of others, takes on and defeats a billionaire. Btw is stephen miller our universes lex luthor?
- Friendly reminder superman has always been woke! the radio serial where superman fights the kk stand-in used actual kk codes and rituals, and once those were dragged into the light, the klan diminished. His biggest enemy is a billionaire business mogul with political aspirations.
El Contraste con Otros Héroes y la Crítica al Sistema.
Se mencionan otros héroes como Green Arrow (un multimillonario de "nueva ola" con moralidad socialista) y Daredevil (un abogado pro-bono) para contrastar con el modelo de Batman y la necesidad de héroes que aborden problemas estructurales en lugar de solo castigar síntomas.
- I am really excited for the daredevilgreen arrow story. I want to see our favorite catholic sad boy meet our favorite paradoxical socialist billionaire.
- I love daredevil is realistic. Not in the actually could exist sense. Usually hes not fighting space aliens. Usually the worlds not at stake. He fights for his community. Hes not a billionaire, hes a pro bono lawyer. Hes an abolitionist.
- I would really love to see robin hood as a hero narratives make a comeback and replace all this benevolent billionaire bs yes, im like 10 minutes into ironheart.
- I dont care what conservatives say about it. Im going to see a movie about kindness about a great hero opposing a billionaire villain.
- I think we need to try something new a batman played by an actor who is actually the insane son of a billionaire family.